The DVD Option of Movie Maker 2 on MCE2005 Systems
I've seen an increased awareness and interest in the Media Center Edition of Windows XP... and
one effect of my recent change from my Toshiba notebook to an HP Pavilion zd8000 is that I'm now
running the Windows XP Media Center Edition - 2005, the first version with an added
option in MM2's Save Movie Wizard... Save your movie and copy it to a DVD.
subject of getting movies from TV/discs, editing them, and then back to disc, is a perennial favorite.
As I didn't have the MCE2005 edition on the Toshiba, I had to rely on brief info and screen shots
Now, with the system, it's time to take my first serious look at how it works. I'm using is MyDVD
Plus version 6.1.0, a limited version that was included on the HP notebook.
... before getting into it, here are a few
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At this point I can't open version 2.1 on it... an error message says I don't have an audio device.
Seems the installation of the operating system missed linking with the sound card. Other than that
it's working well.
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.... on to the main topic...
The DVD Option in MCE2005
Let's look at the process in five parts:
- saving the movie
- converting (transcoding) it to MPEG-2 files
- burning the disc
- playing the DVD on a computer and stand-alone DVD player
- editing or adding to the burned disc (trying to... my software version
doesn't support it)
may vary from system to system as the DVD process is handled on mine by Sonic software, not Movie
Part 1 - Rendering the Movie (WMV file)
When you select the DVD option in the Saving Wizard, the profile is automatically selected and
the movie rendered to a WMV file.
It's saved in the same folder that the project file is in. If you haven't saved the project file,
the movie is rendered to the c:\Documents and Settings\PapaJohn\My Documents\My Videos folder.
The movie is named Untitled_001.wmv, nothing to do with the name of the project file. You don't
get a chance to name it, not until it gets to the DVD stage.
And you don't get an option to save a copy either. Unlike the option of going to an email with
your movie, the wizard doesn't make such an offer...
If you want a copy, you'll need to rip one from the temporary WMV after it's saved and before
moving on to DVD creation. Copy it to another file name or folder.
1: The wizard doesn't keep the temporary movie file open.
If you wanted to, you could swap it out with another file that you'd like on the DVD instead.
It could be a story file from Photo Story 3, without having to re-render it in Movie Maker.
Canceling the process after the rendering and before starting the DVD process results in the
temporary movie file being immediately deleted, and it doesn't show up in the recycle bin. If your
movie is large and took a long time to render, you'd be better off rendering it to a DV-AVI or high
quality WMV file first, and bringing it in as a single clip. The single clip on the timeline will
render lots quicker and you don't run the risk of something getting in the way of the original rendering.
The profile used for the temporary WMV file is built into the process and not changeable. I searched
my hard drive to see if I could find the file and see the settings... but didn't find it. Must be
embedded in the application software someplace... in an exe, a dll, whatever. It's not a prx profile.
Instead of looking at profile settings, let's take a look at the properties of a temporary WMV
file by importing it into Movie Maker.
The bit rate is as high as the best WMV option that comes with Movie Maker but only 1/3 to 1/4
the rate of a high quality DVD MPEG-2 file.
Tip 2: Bumping up the bitrate
in a custom profile, and substituting the rendered movie for the temporary WMV file would be
a good use of the swap-out feature.
Not only would the swap work with a higher quality WMV file... you could
render the movie to a DV-AVI file and use that instead (name it the same, including the WMV
The size of 720x480 is appropriate as it aligns with the MPEG-2 DVD standard... better than the
Photo Story 3 DVD plug-in that uses 640x480 and results in lower quality.
Part 2 - Transcoding (converting) to MPEG-2 files...
After the temporary WMV file is fully rendered, Movie Maker tosses the ball to the Sonic DVD
wizard (or whatever brand comes with your system - I'm interested in hearing about it).
You know you're out of Movie Maker at this point because the window has a Sonic logo, and you
can have this wizard open yet go back and do other things in Movie Maker. If it was a Movie Maker
wizard, you'd have to close it first.
This is the window where you get to name your DVD and the video... see the screen shot in part
4 below to see where these two titles end up on the main menu.
Accept the drive selection and write speed. You can select as many as 20 discs.
Tip 3:It's a good idea to select
a few copies... even if you only want one disc. If you run into a glitch in the burning, it'll
tell you that it was unsuccessful but won't offer to try again. You have to start over in Movie
Maker and re-render the movie.
If you get a successful burn on the first disc, you can press the cancel
button to close the process before starting the second one.
When you press the Create DVD button the Sonic wizard checks to see that you
have a blank DVD disc in the drive...
if you don't, or if you've slipped a substitute in to try to get it to a disc, but
it won't accept it... it'll give you the error message below.
Tip 4: It's another message that
could be due to other reasons. I saw it a bit during testing... not only when I put an already
used disc in the drive (good call)... but also when I substituted a downloaded MPEG-2 file to
see if I could slip it into the process (bad call, as it was based on the input file, not the
When it accepts both the input file (or the substitute you slipped in) and the blank disc, it'll
transcode the MPEG-2 files needed for the disc. To do it, the wizard creates a temporary disc-based
The project is named MCE2005.dvd and created in the c:\Documents and Settings\PapaJohn\Local
Part 3 - Burning the disc(s)...
You'll have had to satisfy Sonic's need for an appropriate blank disc before the DVD project
is saved to disc, so there's nothing more to do at this step except watch it. I use DVD-R discs.
When the disc is finished you get the good feelings (or relief) from the notice at the right...
Part 4 - Playing the disc...
The DVD menu at the left is what you get if you accept all of the defaults, not naming the DVD
The embedded logo on the menu is the Media Center... but here it's playing in WinDVD. It plays
As I didn't have a functional DVD player in the house, I went out and purchased the lowest priced
one I could find - $29.95 after rebate. I played it, using the 3-1/2" LCD screen of my camcorder
as the screen... and it looked good.
Part 5 - Adding to or Editing the disc...
I tried to open the DVD project on the disc, to change the titles or add another movie, but a
message said this version doesn't support it... and offered a link to purchase a higher version.
Conclusions and Closing
Everything worked well... all of my test burns but one finished successfully
and played on computers and stand-alone DVD players. One of them resulted in an error message during
the burn... I was doing a dozen other things on the computer at the same time, and I chalked it
up to my pushing things a bit too far.
MyDVD Plus version 6.1.0 on my new notebook is a limited one...
it has the same menu as the fuller version, but I get pop-up marketing messages when I opt for certain
For example, selecting Fit-to-DVD from the Quality drop-down list gives me this.
I got the same message when I put a burned disc back in the drive and tried to open it to make
changes or add another movie to the disc.
I upgraded MyDVD version 4.5 to the Studio Deluxe 6.1 version on the Toshiba laptop back in March,
in order to use stories rendered by Photo Story 3. I ran into significant problems with it... I'm
leery of doing it again, but I'll probably give it a shot one of these days... approaching it very
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