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dlk is not online. Last active: 7/2/2011 1:14:29 PM dlk
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a different way to bluescreen-without a screen - needs PIP+ and you need be able to create a transparent image
Posted: 03 Feb 2006 08:19 PM
Ok...the quality is very poor, I did this after work in like 2 hours.
But if you spent some time and effort, it could be pretty nice.

blscreen
You need your subject on a stationary object, and you need a tripod.
Film and import your video, take a snapshot and load that image into
your photoshop/paint shop type program. Carve out the stationary
object so that is transparent, then make the rest of the image blue
or whatever. I chose black....blue may have worked better.
Save that as a PNG, and make a PIP effect that uses that overlays.
Fire up MM2, add your intended background to the timeline, add your
new video to the timeline, add the overlay effect to your video, and
voila...you have a blue screen behind your subject. Stuck in the chair,
but still. Now transition with the proper chroma transition, and you
should have a new background.

I had also thought of standing in a doorway, and take away
everything else. That might look cool.
I also added a 2nd overlay...as a blurred border to try to take away
the jaggies, you can notice it the last segment. Needs work.

dlk
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Re: a different way to bluescreen-without a screen - needs PIP+ and you need be able to create a transparent image
Posted: 04 Feb 2006 06:12 PM
dlk i loved the effects the matrix and colours , and all.
you vided your child. in the chair he did his acting................
then you snap a still shot and delete the background
you overlay the cahir back in and the child with a bluescree neffect correct? so you are using 3 effects in one?
I may have lost you but I understand in a way. Priceles no matter wht .



ALL YOUR XMLS IN THIS LINK===> tranistions and effects in alphabetical order <===All your XMLS IN THIS LINK!
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thank you in advance If I never say
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Re: a different way to bluescreen-without a screen - needs PIP+ and you need be able to create a transparent image
Posted: 04 Feb 2006 07:01 PM
Thanks.
The matrix is from Kathokatho of course(too much data?)
And you are close. I filmed, loaded the clip into Movie maker,
used the snapshot feature in MM so it's exactly the same as
the moie, load that snapshot into Photoshop, erase the CHAIR,
then blacken what is left, and use that as an overlay.
When I use that with the PIP+ effect, only the chair is visible,
the rest is a black background...which is then chroma keyed.


dlk

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Re: a different way to bluescreen-without a screen - needs PIP+ and you need be able to create a transparent image
Posted: 04 Feb 2006 08:23 PM
Nice idea dlk.
I'll have to keep an eye out for suitable chairs...

I use Firefox+Greasemonkey scripts for easier editing of forum posts, FAQs and displaying embedded images Wink
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Re: a different way to bluescreen-without a screen - needs PIP+ and you need be able to create a transparent image
Posted: 05 Feb 2006 11:42 PM
That is an ingenuos idea where do you get all this stuff?

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Re: a different way to bluescreen-without a screen - needs PIP+ and you need be able to create a transparent image
Posted: 23 Feb 2006 07:51 PM
where can I get the PIP overlay?
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Re: a different way to bluescreen-without a screen - needs PIP+ and you need be able to create a transparent image
Posted: 23 Feb 2006 08:30 PM
You need the PIP Plus package from Rehan's website (www.rehanfx.org), then you can create custom XML to take advantage of the overlays and PIP effects.

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Re: a different way to bluescreen-without a screen - needs PIP+ and you need be able to create a transparent image
Posted: 23 Feb 2006 08:50 PM
Yes, I downloaded the trial, I made the video of me in a chair, took the snapshot, made it transparent, and here is what I have so far: <a href='http://media.putfile.com/bluescreen56' target='_blank'>Click here to watch 'bluescreen56'</a> , what next? do I need to add an effect? i already have PIP plus(trial), if I need to add something, whats the xml? thanks
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Re: a different way to bluescreen-without a screen - needs PIP+ and you need be able to create a transparent image
Posted: 23 Feb 2006 08:51 PM
wait that was messed up, here is the URL http://media.putfile.com/bluescreen56
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Re: a different way to bluescreen-without a screen - needs PIP+ and you need be able to create a transparent image
Posted: 23 Feb 2006 09:07 PM
I don't see anything when I look at that link... anyway, you need to make your own overlay. Quoting from the first post by dlk, "take a snapshot and load that image into your photoshop/paint shop type program. Carve out the stationary object so that is transparent, then make the rest of the image blue or whatever. I chose black....blue may have worked better. Save that as a PNG, and make a PIP effect that uses that overlay."

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Re: a different way to bluescreen-without a screen - needs PIP+ and you need be able to create a transparent image
Posted: 23 Feb 2006 09:14 PM
Oh wait, you want the XML to overlay that .png on top of your video. It should look something like this:

<TransitionsAndEffects Version="1.0" SpecialIconFileID="1033" SpecialIconResourceID="101">
<Effects>
<EffectDLL guid="{0BEDE179-3361-4eea-9058-11CBB1739D50}">
<Effect name="PIP Plus: blue surrounding chair overlay" iconid="0">
<Param name="RectA" value=" 0.0, 0.0,0.0,1.0,1.0" />
<Param name="BorderA" value="C:\Program Files\Movie Maker\Shared\AddOnTFX\bluesurroundingchair.png" />
</Effect>
</EffectDLL>
</Effects>
</TransitionsAndEffects>


Assuming the bluesurroundingchair.png is the name of your image with the blue around a transparent 'chair' region, you should be able to apply the effect and see blue in place of the background around the chair. Then you can do the Chroma keying to replace the blue background.

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Re: a different way to bluescreen-without a screen - needs PIP+ and you need be able to create a transparent image
Posted: 23 Feb 2006 09:15 PM
sorry if im getting to be annoying, but thats what I did, the overlay, I made the area with me sitting in a chair transparent, than I made the background blue, I dont know what to do next. the link seems to be working fine for me
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Re: a different way to bluescreen-without a screen - needs PIP+ and you need be able to create a transparent image
Posted: 23 Feb 2006 09:15 PM
o thanks, you posted that as I posted what I just did before this, sorry, thanks for the help :D
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Re: a different way to bluescreen-without a screen - needs PIP+ and you need be able to create a transparent image
Posted: 23 Feb 2006 09:16 PM
wait, what is chroma keying?
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Re: a different way to bluescreen-without a screen - needs PIP+ and you need be able to create a transparent image
Posted: 23 Feb 2006 09:19 PM
Try this post (view post 39567)

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Re: a different way to bluescreen-without a screen - needs PIP+ and you need be able to create a transparent image
Posted: 23 Feb 2006 09:43 PM
I can see only one thing I might be doing wrong, is it ok if Im using a title overlay for the bluescreen? if it is, than I followed the directions and its not working

1.I took a snapshot of me in the chair and made that area transparent, and made the background blue
2.I made that image an overlay(title)
3. I put the background I wanted first
4.I put the clip of me in the chair, and also, I put in the bluescreen overlay
5. I put in the bluescreen transition and dragged it as far as I could to the left

The results I got were at the beginning the background playing inside the chair area, and once the chair clip started me in the chair with a blue background and a transparency so you could kind of see through and also see the other video clip

Sorry if Im getting annoying, this just seems really cool and I want to learn how to od it
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Re: a different way to bluescreen-without a screen - needs PIP+ and you need be able to create a transparent image
Posted: 23 Feb 2006 09:44 PM
I meant, once the chair clip started, it was just me in the chair with the blue bacground
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Re: a different way to bluescreen-without a screen - needs PIP+ and you need be able to create a transparent image
Posted: 23 Feb 2006 10:42 PM
YES I GOT IT TO WORK!!! i just had to save the chairvideo with t he overlay as a movie file first, thanks for your help!
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Re: a different way to bluescreen-without a screen - needs PIP+ and you need be able to create a transparent image
Posted: 23 Feb 2006 11:39 PM
Using a title overlay is the reason you had to save the movie first.
PIP+ would overlay an individual clip on the video track and then the
chroma-key transition works with that altered clip.
The title overlay goes over the top of whatever is underneath it on the
video track, while the transition underneath is working with unaltered clips.
As you slide the 2 clip together on the video track, the blue title overlay
is on top of everything, so you end up still seeing the blue.
Hope that clears it up. Otherwise, glad to see you got it working.

dlk
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Re: a different way to bluescreen-without a screen - needs PIP+ and you need be able to create a transparent image
Posted: 24 Feb 2006 01:04 PM
yes it does, thanks!
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